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NoiseEHC
Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51 |
World Record Database
Hi!
Is there anybody who knows if there is some kind of world record database? If there is none then are there people interested in creating one in a wiki? I am thinking about creating a paragraph of the effect description of "every" demo ever released (which have world records or new effects of course), and to group the effects into categories. For example "sprite multiplexers" would be a category, listing record numbers/years going up to Crest's 120/170 sprite records (each one a link to the respective demo).
Anybody interested?
Thanks,
Noise/EHC |
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Gordian
Registered: May 2022
Posts: 36 |
Hello!
https://www.atlantis-prophecy.org/recollection/?load=world_of_d..
https://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:demo_world_records_and_..
Propably not very often updated both. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854 |
Quoting NoiseEHCAnybody interested? This kind of stuff gets silly rather quickly.
Take sprite records, for example.
There's one record for N sprites simultaneously on a video frame.
Then there's another record, but with more (N+M) but sprite-crunched sprites.
Then another with even more (N+M+L) sprite-crunched sprites at 9 sprites per rasterline, but of course every other rasterline is blank.
Now... which one of those is Best (TM)? They're all legit records, but, strictly speaking, each in their own category.
You can find many examples like this with pretty much all of the staple effects, where the sheer amount of that one countable thing used to determine records, and the theoretical limit, is depending on other factors.
E.g., bobs (size, X and/or Y degrees of freedom), Kefren bars (width), starfields/3D plots (perspective or not, numbers of degrees of freedom), etc. - and all of those with or without open sideborders and different amount of colours. |
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macx
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 252 |
What's most important is the dynamic in constantly trying to achieve the world's first, like e.g. H.T.T.M.F.C.
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NoiseEHC
Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51 |
Quoting KrillNow... which one of those is Best (TM)? They're all legit records, but, strictly speaking, each in their own category.
You do not have to decide which one is best. You just have to list all of them on a wiki page.
For me it would be interesting to know whether something has been done or not, before making another world record. I just cannot remember all the effects from all a demos. |
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NoiseEHC
Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51 |
Quoting GordianHello!
https://www.atlantis-prophecy.org/recollection/?load=world_of_d..
https://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:demo_world_records_and_..
Probably not very often updated both.
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately these are very sparse and out of date... :) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854 |
Quoting NoiseEHCYou do not have to decide which one is best. You just have to list all of them on a wiki page. My point was that "all of them" would be quite a long list, with very similar things and rather few contestants in each category.
That, or you'd lump together separate categories and arbitrarily pick a winner.
Quoting NoiseEHCFor me it would be interesting to know whether something has been done or not, before making another world record. I just cannot remember all the effects from all a demos. You could also just ask on this forum for a list of similar things to what you have in mind, then decide if it's worth to try surpassing them. =) |
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NoiseEHC
Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51 |
Quoting KrillMy point was that "all of them" would be quite a long list, with very similar things and rather few contestants in each category.
That, or you'd lump together separate categories and arbitrarily pick a winner.
I understand you. But I need exactly that long list. Still no point to pick winners. Btw it would not be that long. There are not too many serious coder groups, and there are not that many demos either. I would guess the grand total would be <1000 entries for <200 demos.
Quoting Krill
You could also just ask on this forum for a list of similar things to what you have in mind, then decide if it's worth to try surpassing them. =)
Yeah, that is exactly what I want to avoid... ;) |
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Digger
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 421 |
What I would like to see/create would be more like a lookup DB for demo effects.
When you type "sprite plexor" you would get all CSDb demos with that plus info on quantities, screenshots etc.
A bit similar to Plus4World where every demo has a list of fx incl. graphics modes etc.
https://plus4world.powweb.com/software/Rocket_Science
E.g. if you look for "plasma":
https://plus4world.powweb.com/effects/Plasma
Give it 1-2 years and AI would do most of that work =) |
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Scrap
Registered: Jan 2021
Posts: 14 |
I am with Digger. Records or not, would be interesting to have a searchable database of who did what and when... We are getting old and sometimes it is hard to remember: "hey, where did I see that effect???" Also, would be good, before boasting, to check if you are really the first with an effect... ;-) But this database would be a whole lot of work with all those demos out there... |
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NoiseEHC
Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51 |
Quoting DiggerWhat I would like to see/create would be more like a lookup DB for demo effects.
Exactly. However I would prefer a wiki format, as searching with google is much better usually...
Btw that is a nice site for +4. |
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