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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012 Posts: 330 |
Event id #3391 : C64GFX.com CharSet Logo Compo 2024
✅ I am in! (After more than a decade!) |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 491 |
Quote: So maybe same way every effect in demos should be labelled if realtime or not code is copied from another coder or not, and SID pieces too, why only GFX gets this threatment?
How do we know that Vision logo is original work?
https://www.dafont.com/barett-street.font?text=Vision
Maybe, I’ll leave that to the programmers.
Good point about the Vision logo, as Hein did not mention a source, I assumed it was his own. That’s how it works.
In case of Carillon I recognized the font and asked Aleksi to be open about it. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007 Posts: 575 |
Quote: So maybe same way every effect in demos should be labelled if realtime or not code is copied from another coder or not, and SID pieces too, why only GFX gets this threatment?
How do we know that Vision logo is original work?
https://www.dafont.com/barett-street.font?text=Vision
The comment about code is one that I was thinking about today… there’ve been some demos of late that have quite seriously borrowed others’ ideas.
The music bands playing instruments along to the music
The Daah! Those Acid Pills (copied a few times, most recently in Multiverse).
Comafight
Performers’ weird D800/anim scrolling layers thingummy (Lethargy made a homage to this)
Etc etc. I’m sure I’ve done it myself too.
I’ll try to give references in future for things that I’ve copied, if i do… but I tend to try to avoid just downright copying others’ work - unless I see an avenue to make them seriously better (eg. The “Bob-trail” effect in No Bounds - adds a scrolling background AND more bobs than Bob had, and pretty much matches what fREUd was doing but without needing REU). |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 118 |
Quote:How do we know that Vision logo is original work?
Because Hein said so, and that should be more than good enough for us.
As for coding copies, my knowledge here is severely limited, but a vastly more skilled coder once told me that reverse engineering code is a few orders of magnitude harder than nicking a font. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007 Posts: 575 |
UPDATED RULES:-
1) we will now allow 6 (SIX) entries per person;
2) entries will be split into 4 (FOUR) categories - "MultiColour and Mixed", "HiRes", "PETSCII" and "ECM". Please tag appropriately on CSDb. I'm open to suggestions on how best to do this .. the "compo" dropdown of course doesn't have the right categories.............. but on C64GFX.com I'll tag everything appropriately ahead of voting.
Updated rules here: https://www.c64gfx.com/compo/CharSetLogoCompo2024.html |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007 Posts: 575 |
Quoting 4gentereverse engineering code is a few orders of magnitude harder than nicking a font.
You didn't see my 80s demos then ;p .. Expert Disassembler was the Google/Codebase64 of the 80s. |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 491 |
Quoting RaistlinThe comment about code is one that I was thinking about today… there’ve been some demos of late that have quite seriously borrowed others’ ideas.
These code analogies don't work in this context. (And concerning that, the desired solution is of course being transparant about it).
Let's talk about the pixel graphic and the compo instead.
The first rule 'All entries must be original'.
Love that of course, creativity should be encouraged.
Therefore I personally judge on ideas, style and handcraft.
I'm personally not against using fonts for this compo, but please be open about it, and at least give it a creative twist of your own. There are many cases inbetween the Vision and Carillon logo of course. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 118 |
Quote: Expert Disassembler was the Google/Codebase64 of the 80s.
I was a caveman that never got past Smon. ;-)
Sorry for this distraction from the subject. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 118 |
@Raistlin:
C64GFX.com says 5 entries per person. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007 Posts: 575 |
Quote: @Raistlin:
C64GFX.com says 5 entries per person.
Sorry! Fixed now. I was home alone trying to update this at the same time as doing spellings and math with my daughter - so missed pushing an update.
Probably more info than you needed though :p |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 118 |
@Raistlin:
Yeah, “I was home alone” would suffice. ;-)
Anyway, thanks for doing all of this. |
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