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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1665 |
CSDb back online
Now CSDb is back online.
I must regret to say that the data that was lost the other day is gone for good. :(
I deleted the primary backup by mistake yesterday (shit happens), and there seems to be no secondary backup.
I have now taken all precautions so that a similar incident should never happen again.
In addition I have also made some feature to avoid anyone from mass-deleting ever again, which I will of course not go into details on here.
I hope you are willing to restore the data that were lost so that we can get CSDb back to it's old state.
Thank you.
/Perff
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588 |
Hello Klaus!
First of all, it's a bad thing, but good that it's back.
Once again thanks, you do a very good job!
How about posting a list of what is missing now and so the contributors may re-add?!
Thanks in advance!
All the best!
Bye!
Joerg |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1665 |
I'm sorry to say that when I fucked up yesterday all traces of the stuff secret deleted was gone.
So I have no better clue to what was deleted.
However from google-cache I can see the following things missing:
Deus Ex Machina
Dutch Breeze
+H2K
Soiled Legacy
Altered States 50%
Tower Power 92%
Dawnfall
Royal Arte 100%
Camel Park
But thats all I know. :/ |
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midfit
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 143 |
Unfortunatly there is a lot more gone. Who knows which kind of good information this sorry attack has wasted. We all can't determinate the full scope of this attack. However, my full support for CDSb, whereever I can contribute to get the entries back online again, I will do. |
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588 |
Maybe this helps a bit?!
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://noname.c64.org
All the best!
Bye!
Joerg
PS:
Some "mirror backups" seem to point to the momentary one we have here,.. |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Welcome back! Nice to see that there wasn't more stuff deleted after all. But still too bad, especially if ppls comments have been deleted too. |
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Celtic
Administrator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807 |
I wonder how much is lost... And i hope the dick that did this gets fucked in his skull
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Westbam
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 192 |
Well, I will start to provide as much info as I remember to the database again.
Im sure everybody will do so to get things in shape again... |
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Earthshaker
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 118 |
Already on it. |
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DCMP
Account closed
Registered: May 2003
Posts: 58 |
I dont want to falsely excuse anyone, but that A.J the timelord (newest user) sounds like something Secret man would make up.
I hope you were able to ban him somehow, with this ip number. |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1665 |
I have been checking that account out in high details now.
I don't think it's secret.
First of all the ip he used is very different from the ones I have seen secret on.
Secondly he was adding stuff at the exact same time as someone (secret) was busy deleting yesterday.
So for now I will let him live. :)
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Westbam
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 192 |
Well, considering he uses different isp´s, it would already be very hard to trace him... |
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Radar
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 259 |
Perff, you can be sure that I'll spend some time in putting some data in the correct way again, as far as I know and remember from the past. And I guess that people like Westbam, Tricket, Hero and Midfit will do the same and support your database. |
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Hero
Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 90 |
Yes i will do my best! AM glad Secret Man( Skin Head) or whatever he call him self is gone.
Harry
Hero/ILS
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Celtic
Administrator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807 |
Thanks all! The more info we get the better! |
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Radar
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 259 |
Bod and Derbyshire Ram have been deleted, too. Did put them on again.
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588 |
I will add the Falcon Soft (Cz) releases!
at the moment, I experience problems with the internal upload and the download links appear as invalid even if they work. So, please no screems, Perff know about it :)
All the best!
Bye!
Joerg |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1058 |
My account seems to have been deleted...
Nothing to do except add all the info again? That sucks...
You need off-site backups for this thing. I can provide diskspace and a connection if you need it.
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619 |
I just check the database and my TND stuff are still online and downloadable from the database. Thank goodness that's all still there, else I would have spent a lot of time retyping all infos about my work.
Anyway, I saw what was posted on C64.sk and think that whoever this guy/lamer 'Secret Man' is, ought to be ashamed with himself. Let us hope things are back to normal. |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1665 |
I'm not sure if I should do this, but I have decided to publish all the knowledge I have on our commen "friend" Secret Man.
Do with the info what you like. :)
Here is the (known) e-mail's he used to register on CSDb:
cruueell@aol.com (His original registration)
koooler@web.de (The account from which he deleted a lot)
Krause419@hotmail.com (Another attempt which I cought)
Known IP's he has been using:
195.93.64-74.X
172.176-184.X.Y
And finally here is a nice little mail he sent to me on the day of the big deletion:
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Subject: Secret Man is back..............
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:23:02 +0100
From:"Eduart Zimmer" <Koooler@web.de>
Good evening Perffy baby.
I warned you to delete me,but i think you have some problems with your eyes,that you couldnt read my messages.I deleted many things.
So,I will log on with Secret Man again and if you delete me i will delete 200 dudes.
It was wrong to delete.Several good demos like Dutch Breeze are gone to hell.
DONT DELETE ME or i will delete MUCH MORE !!
Yours
Secret Man
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This is the last I have heard of him.
Yesterday however I got three registration requests from the same ip: 172.184.235.42 with these infos:
Login:Timberlake Email:Harry2000@hotmail.com
Login:JonasJ Email:JJonathan@gmx.de
Login:Lazyness Email:lazynessrsi@lycos.de
That looked too suspecious, so I denied them.
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 886 |
Let's get him! ;) |
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Westbam
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 192 |
Well, Lazyness was a correct handle from some RSI guy back then. But who knows if it really was this guy?
Well, I got ahold of some info about him aswell including his phone number, address and valid email... If anyone wants to have it, feel free....
Westbam / Legend |
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Celtic
Administrator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807 |
the are quite a lot of web wizards here.... get the motherfucker!!
I hope someone really fucks him over and over. |
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Westbam
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 192 |
@Perff: Uhm, I almost forgot, what about this tnm96 account? I wonder if that is fake asweel considering the rather stupid comments left by this guy(?)... |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3035 |
Quote: I'm not sure if I should do this, but I have decided to publish all the knowledge I have on our commen "friend" Secret Man.
Do with the info what you like. :)
Here is the (known) e-mail's he used to register on CSDb:
cruueell@aol.com (His original registration)
koooler@web.de (The account from which he deleted a lot)
Krause419@hotmail.com (Another attempt which I cought)
Known IP's he has been using:
195.93.64-74.X
172.176-184.X.Y
And finally here is a nice little mail he sent to me on the day of the big deletion:
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Subject: Secret Man is back..............
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:23:02 +0100
From:"Eduart Zimmer" <Koooler@web.de>
Good evening Perffy baby.
I warned you to delete me,but i think you have some problems with your eyes,that you couldnt read my messages.I deleted many things.
So,I will log on with Secret Man again and if you delete me i will delete 200 dudes.
It was wrong to delete.Several good demos like Dutch Breeze are gone to hell.
DONT DELETE ME or i will delete MUCH MORE !!
Yours
Secret Man
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This is the last I have heard of him.
Yesterday however I got three registration requests from the same ip: 172.184.235.42 with these infos:
Login:Timberlake Email:Harry2000@hotmail.com
Login:JonasJ Email:JJonathan@gmx.de
Login:Lazyness Email:lazynessrsi@lycos.de
That looked too suspecious, so I denied them.
Good move. I suggest to open his entry for editing so people can insert info about his pathetic actions. Let's put him where he belongs --- into the list of the biggest losers who ever crawled on the earth surface. Forever. |
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midfit
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 143 |
He was never anywhere else .. :) |
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Radar
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 259 |
Quote: He was never anywhere else .. :)
But this ain't the answer to the problem. Anybody can always log in and do the same stupid shit again, Secret Lady just makes up another fake account and as soon as Perff doesn't notice, the crap starts over and over again. There has to be a long-time solution for it. |
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Hero
Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 90 |
Dont want to write about that looser anymore. but a telphone conferance with him, should have been fun. Or someone order a tonn sand/rooks to his addy. Somthing for you Radar...heheh
Harry
Hero/ILLUSION
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midfit
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 143 |
Na - Na - Na - Na ... SWAT :)= |
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Westbam
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 192 |
Well CeBit, the worlds largest computer exhibition is taking place soon. And the fact that Hannover (CeBit hometown) is just about 100 kilometers from Braunschweig should make us think about some "final" solution to that issue... |
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Radar
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 259 |
Quote: Well CeBit, the worlds largest computer exhibition is taking place soon. And the fact that Hannover (CeBit hometown) is just about 100 kilometers from Braunschweig should make us think about some "final" solution to that issue...
It's like in march/april, right? If you show up there, we can finally share a drink together I guess... |
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Westbam
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 192 |
Quote: It's like in march/april, right? If you show up there, we can finally share a drink together I guess...
I visit CeBit every year Hartmut... This year I´ll be there from Thursday until Sunday. At least that´s what it´s planned so far... |
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CyberBrain
Administrator
Posts: 392 |
Nothing wrong with kicking his lamer ass, allthough i'm normally against this kind of thing. If i lived in germany i would get my friends together, and join you. (allthough i know voilence is fuck)
It'll take months to get all the credits for everything back |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619 |
Quote: I'm not sure if I should do this, but I have decided to publish all the knowledge I have on our commen "friend" Secret Man.
Do with the info what you like. :)
Here is the (known) e-mail's he used to register on CSDb:
cruueell@aol.com (His original registration)
koooler@web.de (The account from which he deleted a lot)
Krause419@hotmail.com (Another attempt which I cought)
Known IP's he has been using:
195.93.64-74.X
172.176-184.X.Y
And finally here is a nice little mail he sent to me on the day of the big deletion:
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Subject: Secret Man is back..............
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:23:02 +0100
From:"Eduart Zimmer" <Koooler@web.de>
Good evening Perffy baby.
I warned you to delete me,but i think you have some problems with your eyes,that you couldnt read my messages.I deleted many things.
So,I will log on with Secret Man again and if you delete me i will delete 200 dudes.
It was wrong to delete.Several good demos like Dutch Breeze are gone to hell.
DONT DELETE ME or i will delete MUCH MORE !!
Yours
Secret Man
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This is the last I have heard of him.
Yesterday however I got three registration requests from the same ip: 172.184.235.42 with these infos:
Login:Timberlake Email:Harry2000@hotmail.com
Login:JonasJ Email:JJonathan@gmx.de
Login:Lazyness Email:lazynessrsi@lycos.de
That looked too suspecious, so I denied them.
That sounds like a threat to destroy the whole C64 scene community. DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN!
If you create any new releases, I think it would be best to set yourself as the maintainer/uploader, until the author wants to take over - maybe. |
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Celtic
Administrator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807 |
Like Perff stated before, he has now quality up te date backups of the database.
So nothing like this can happen again. Please do not worry that much anymore, just lets get the data fixed... |
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588 |
Quote: Like Perff stated before, he has now quality up te date backups of the database.
So nothing like this can happen again. Please do not worry that much anymore, just lets get the data fixed...
Well, I guess just locking all entries in panick doesn't help us, or?!
All the best!
Bye!
Joerg |
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CyberBrain
Administrator
Posts: 392 |
Locking everything in panic is not a good idea.
CSDb will be a weak database if everything is locked.
It will mean that other people can't complete/fix the info.
TO EVERYBODY: Please, don't lock everything, and please unlock what you randomly locked in panic.
What happened wasn't because that the CSDb backup system is poor. We *CAN* get deleted stuff back. What happened was a little screw up.. (read Perff's posts, please)
Usually a secret man deleting 200 records shouldn't be a problem. This was a one-timer...
We're sorry. This won't happen again. |
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CyberBrain
Administrator
Posts: 392 |
...This is not the first time stuff has been deleted. Some of you may remember big groups like fairlight (as far as i remember) etc, being deleted about a year ago.
It wasn't a problem then, and it won't be in the future. |
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Six
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 287 |
Ahh, at least SM isn't an American. How embarassing that would be for those of us on this side of the Atlantic. Can't one of you German sceners go beat a little sense into him?
Is there a solution to be found here that will prevent this from happening again? Perhaps require edits/deletions to be approved by a moderator unless it's by the maintainer of a record? |
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Radar
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 259 |
Quote: I visit CeBit every year Hartmut... This year I´ll be there from Thursday until Sunday. At least that´s what it´s planned so far...
Seriously, we should have a small-talk about that, as Hannover is quite easy to reach from Hamburg and that might be a good chance for a decent meal and talk at one evening ;-) |
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Didi
Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 479 |
Quote: I have been checking that account out in high details now.
I don't think it's secret.
First of all the ip he used is very different from the ones I have seen secret on.
Secondly he was adding stuff at the exact same time as someone (secret) was busy deleting yesterday.
So for now I will let him live. :)
Is there any real proof he is responsible for the crash? Or was it just some witch hunt on someone some people do not like? Refering to the quote even Perff had it's doubts about it. I was not there when it happend but the whole thread reads like a witch hunt without any real proof... nothing but suspicions. The reference should be removed from his profile.
That's why we ignored it and let him join our group as Original Supplier because he does a good job at that by now. |
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Acidchild
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 467 |
i can confirm the last sentence from didi...secretman made mistakes before, but i'm sure he has learned his lesson, he's a nice guy. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Quote: Is there any real proof he is responsible for the crash? Or was it just some witch hunt on someone some people do not like? Refering to the quote even Perff had it's doubts about it. I was not there when it happend but the whole thread reads like a witch hunt without any real proof... nothing but suspicions. The reference should be removed from his profile.
That's why we ignored it and let him join our group as Original Supplier because he does a good job at that by now.
That was a reply to DCMP about the latest registered user at the time; A.J the timelord. Read reply #20 for the proof you ask for. |
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Didi
Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 479 |
Accounts from freemailers where everyone can register without data checking are no proof in any way. That's the internet.
Nevertheless this was 8 years ago and even there was something real on the whole issue, which I doubt, everybody deserves a second chance and he does a good job for us until now. That is what counts for us. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568 |
I can vouch for Secret Man. He's a cool guy.
Never met him but I still want to thank him for the giant box of 3,5" disks he once sent me.
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Skate
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 491 |
Let's shoot a documentary film about Secret Man. How he deleted all those entries and turned to the light side over the years. :)
I'd like to meet him at X'2012 if he shows up (and i show up too of course ;)). |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 833 |
I heard that Mason/Unicess is Secret Man. ;) According to video by Jan Harries at least. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11135 |
Quote:Let's shoot a documentary film about Secret Man.
I demand mr.tarantino to direct it. death threats are only half the fun without mr.tarantino involved. |
