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2019-12-14 13:17
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Releases with "YF", "C.C.S" and "JT" in sysline.

Hi board!
I need a little input from you guys regarding the sceneiness of ceartain releses.
I stumble across a great deal of games that have no intro(cracktro), no info in the game of who cracked and packed it. I dont simply not put them up here coz they are not scene releases.
Then we have games with "YF", "C.C.S" and "JT" in the sysline.
YF=Yeti factory i suppose but would YF put out a crack without a proper intro? My take is that someone just use their packer. I dont upload them either for the moment.
Same goes to "C.C.S" witch I think refers to either "Computerbrains" OR "Cleveland Cracking Service". But same here is that someone who just use a packer from them or is them legimit releases from onw of the groups?
Any takes on this?
 
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2019-12-22 19:56
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
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Smart people take syslines with caution, period.
2019-12-23 13:19
Mr.Ammo
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Quoting Fred
Smart people take syslines with caution, period.
Smart people don't make assumptions, not even with caution.
2019-12-23 21:03
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 284
Assumptions are inevitable. Even credits in scroll text are sometimes wrong. Every info should be handled with caution and interpreted with common sense.

If you know the history of the group, if they made/released their own packer/linker/coder to the public, what time period they were active, what kind of coder/cracker/hacker/lamer they were, all the tiny details, then in some cases sysline info can be taken seriously.

Some uploaders have no idea and just assign sceners/groups to any info that is there which may lead to wrong assumptions. Therefore it is important to check uploads and that we document the info that we know so people get the right info and don't make the same mistakes over and over.
2019-12-24 06:50
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
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A sysline is no proof, period.
2019-12-24 07:43
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
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Quote: A sysline is no proof, period.

You're right and I never said that. It can be used in combination with other things to proof things.
2019-12-25 06:10
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
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Nothing is a proof. Everybody can rip a Triad intro, alter the scroll text and link it in front of a game. So we should allow only the verified original crackers or their verified group mates at release time to add cracks to the db.
Oh, and ", period." Of course. Just to make sure it is clear that what I am writing is the absolute scene law, and everybody else with a differing opinion is a stupid lamer.
2019-12-25 14:57
Mr.Ammo
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Quoting Fred
You're right and I never said that. It can be used in combination with other things to proof things.
Don't say 'proof', when you (probably) mean 'infer'. It's still an assumption, though.
2019-12-25 15:00
Mr.Ammo
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Quoting bugjam
[..] everybody else with a differing opinion is a stupid lamer.
You don't have to mention this, we already know you're one of "those" moderators @ CSDb.
2019-12-25 19:52
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
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Quote: Quoting bugjam
[..] everybody else with a differing opinion is a stupid lamer.
You don't have to mention this, we already know you're one of "those" moderators @ CSDb.


Meaning what exactly, if I may ask?
2019-12-25 23:27
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 629
Yes but ripping, altering and linking an intro is a lot of work compared to some lamer who downloaded a cruncher from random place and compressed a file they found on some disk from who knows where.

Do you really think someone would go to such extremes to fake a release?

Get real.
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