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Released At :
Mekka & Symposium 2000
Achievements :
C64 Demo Competition at Mekka & Symposium 2000 : #1
User rating :   9.3/10 (159 votes) See votestatistics
Credits :
| Code | .... | Crossbow of Crest |
| | | Graham of Oxyron |
| Music | .... | DRAX of Bonzai, Maniacs of Noise, Vibrants |
| | | Jeff of Bonzai, Camelot, Crest, Cyberzound Productions |
| | | MSK of Vibrants |
| Graphics | .... | Crossbow of Crest |
| | | Cyclone of Crest |
| | | DeeKay of Crest, Onslaught |
| | | Mermaid of Creators, Crest, Electric Sheep |
| Design | .... | DeeKay of Crest, Onslaught |
| Idea | .... | Crossbow of Crest |
| | | DeeKay of Crest, Onslaught |
| | | Graham of Oxyron |
| | | Mitch of Cyberzound Productions |
| Disk Cover | .... | Junkie of Doom Patrol, Extend |
| Charset | .... | DeeKay of Crest, Onslaught |
| Loader | .... | Graham of Oxyron |
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Submitted by Rough on 24 January 2010
| I guess you can decipher what 'ten years' means when it was released in 2000, Stupid. |
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Submitted by Carrion on 22 January 2010
10 yesr will be this July (the 3rd)
And still amazing.
The time is going so fast.... |
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Submitted by Rough on 22 January 2010
| I watched this the very first time ten years after its release. An outstanding ultra master piece. Big thanks to all the producers! |
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Submitted by PAL on 2 August 2009
| Ohhh... very cool demo and graphics and all... |
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Submitted by TomoAlien on 14 March 2009
| This demo was groundbreaking when it was released. It's awesome! |
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Submitted by riskej on 18 December 2008
the best c64 demo ever!
"Edge of Disgrace" is just a second star :) |
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Submitted by G-Fellow on 6 December 2008
| One of the best demos ever made for the C64! But now is a new star on the sky, it´s called "Edge of Disgrace" from Booze Design. |
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Submitted by Jeff on 9 August 2008
| I fart on Bordeaux for his comment... If there isn't just one single thing about this demo that he likes... well, then he has worse taste than someone who totally LOVES the flavour of shit. :-) |
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Submitted by Testa on 9 August 2008
| this demo simply rocks!!! |
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Submitted by Hermit on 1 July 2008
What a beautiful picture!!!!!!!
Yeaaaahhhh! C64 16col Rulez!!
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Submitted by Total Chaos on 22 May 2008
slow day at work so I thought... why not check the best c64demo ever out again....
still an amazing piece of art...
(and yes, the tune Crossbow is still among the best ever made on this lovely machine) |
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Submitted by Motion on 24 January 2008
@Bordeaux: You're *SO* GHEY, m8! ;D
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Submitted by Bordeaux on 24 January 2008
| just boring, never liked this demo |
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Submitted by Groepaz on 19 December 2007
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Submitted by Sander on 19 December 2007
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Submitted by Oswald on 19 December 2007
| any hollowman demo? Basic-Demo you mean this one I guess. |
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Submitted by radiantx on 19 December 2007
| Sander: I was of course talking about geeks. :-) |
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Submitted by Mace on 19 December 2007
| Groepaz, you dumped her after she said that, right? |
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Submitted by Sander on 19 December 2007
| @Radiantx: for code ppl, yes.. still, any hollowman demo would be more appealing to most, since the language is human and makes it universal. |
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Submitted by Groepaz on 19 December 2007
| my gf said the gfx is ugly and the "beep beep" music is just annoying. then again she thinks slayer is just noise, so who cares =) |
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Submitted by radiantx on 19 December 2007
| No theme, no killer effects... But it's such an excellent presentation that it's impossible to ignore. This is still THE crowdpleasing C64 demo, more than seven years since its release. If you wanna get someone interested in C64 demos you show them this one, simple as that. |
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Submitted by Knoeki on 25 November 2007
okay, my comment sucks :_D
but what I meant is this:
as far as *I* know, the same effects have been done better before, by the same coders. this is not the point why I think this demo should not be first place though.
it's pretty hard to explain really, but there are so many better works out there, imho.
ah, tastes differ ^_^ |
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Submitted by Steppe on 14 November 2007
| To me the effects/graphics/music thingy as a parameter itself aren't important in this demo. The whole design quirks with all borders active, screen buildups, music synching etc are what this demo is about. It creates a perfect mixture of the single components, that's why many (including me) regard this as the best demo ever made. No weak spots at all. |
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Submitted by Mace on 14 November 2007
If you could only put new and/or improved fx in demos, hardly anybody would be able to release anything, except for the very best.
Demos can also show how a certain person got better and improved on his/her own skills.
On top, it's also important HOW an effect is used, no matter how old... |
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Submitted by Oswald on 14 November 2007
| I kinda agree with knoeki, however improving old routines is the way the demoscene works since it was born. you can not show all completely new fx in each demo. |
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Submitted by Jan Harries on 14 November 2007
| Knoeki: improvements are worth gold, no matter how far ago they were made etc. code is old or not, who cares ? what matters is the end result, and nothing else. |
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Submitted by Knoeki on 15 October 2007
I have some mixed feelings about this demo...
the music is awesome, the graphics rule ( especially the pics by vanja in the endpart, together with the music they bring shivers all over every time I see it ), it still feels like it lacks something... .. .
some effects ( especially the weird horizontal vector ) stays on screen too long, while others ( the scrolling plasma after the intro ) are way too short.
the first diskside is top notch, but the second side just... I dunno, boring, I guess.
Also, it just feels strange, knowing that most ( if not all ) effects have already been improved ~7 years before release. It's not bad that it has old effects, it's just that... why use effects that have been improved? ...nah, that doesn't sound right, don't really have the words for it.
the coke can, even though awesome, looks weird, unless it was intended to look like the 'print' rotates, and not the can itself.
I don't mean this badly, it's just, I had to write it down :/ |
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Submitted by mathman on 3 August 2007
| It's essential, a classic, a monolith, but honestly I also think it's a little boring compared to some other stuff. It's like a greatest hits collection :) |
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Submitted by Total Chaos on 14 May 2007
love this demo... and the tune "Crossbow" by Jeff is wonderfull...
an absolute 10 |
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Submitted by Cruzer on 30 April 2007
Quoting OswaldWe're so close to the limits, that there's no way to make any more breakthroughs.
So untrue. More like we have become so old and contend with what we have, that no one bothers to try making any more breakthroughs. Actually I think that's not even true. There has been several breakthroughs since DEM. |
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Submitted by Motion on 27 April 2007
@wile coyote: Read the hidden part info again, and you'll see that a lightpen isn't necessary, you can access via the monitor in WinVICE (Press 'Alt' and 'M' then type 'g 1D00'). This is to access the hidden Plasma part in the disc note.
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Submitted by HCL on 27 April 2007
Oh, plz Oswald <:). I know Royal Arte is crap because it's not a trackmo. What i mean with "not much new" is that Graham himself already made most of those routines before. In R.A. at least the 26x40-FLI, AB-stretcher, 15xDYCP, SB-bitmap-scroll, SlimePic etc was new stuff at least for me as teh coder.
Now maybe this sounds like i think i made huge steps with R.A. and Graham made just the same bunch of effects once again with DEM, but i really don't. It takes alot more effort than *some* people think to work with demo design, but let's keep that discussion out of here.. :). |
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Submitted by Mermaid on 27 April 2007
Quoting wile coyoteI had mixed feelings towards the use of 'certain' images that appeared during the end part. Some of the graphics such as the image that reads Oxyron and Crest looked excellent, although I felt the use of the Stars Wars image and the Shout! image looked out of place.
Quite... Some of those images were 5-6 years old when the demo was released. I was asked to send Deekay all the koala images I had lying around, so I did, and they used everything except this piece of crap vallejo copy The Dragon and the George (drawn in 1994) because it uses background colour #$0f rather than #$00. The design credit for this demo goes to Deekay, so he gets to take the blame for including all those images you didn't like as well, I guess, I do wonder though, why you found the Star Wars image out of place but a coke can was ok, heh.
I wasn't too keen on using the Star Wars pic and some of the others myself but I had already given up trying to influence the design of the demo in any way at that point. <bitterness> We are Crest, we don't do coherent demos with stories or anything and god forbid we try anything new and different. </bitterness> People still seem to love the demo though, so I guess Deekay was right, and I still love him even though we disagree on lots of stuff and he NEVER reads his PMs on IRC. Or maybe it's just the ones I send him. Hrm. Anyway, hugs to everyone and lots of <3 and stuff. |
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Submitted by Oswald on 27 April 2007
| hcl, well the same could be said to royal arte :) slightly updated parts, and not even in trackmo style. We're so close to the limits, that there's no way to make any more breakthroughs. |
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Submitted by HCL on 27 April 2007
It was a long time since i watched this one, but it sure is one of the best. Still i have sort of mixed feeling for this demo.
Effect-wise it's really not much new in here, not even in y2k when it was released. Most effects had already been seen in Graham's smaller demos, just not exactly in this way. So that can not be what impress people (?!). The way it really differs from other Oxyron and Crest demos is the way the screens are designed. That really stands out. Also the music made this demo feel like it was a few years into the future.
And now 7 years after, noone has been able to do something that appeals more to the gathered cluelessness of the generic CSDB users. That's kinda depressing actually :(. However, deep respect to the people behind this. You know what it takes. |
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Submitted by Sander on 26 April 2007
| I've always considered this the sequal to Dutch Breeze, although it never hit me as hard as the original. As I prefer to keep my jewerly well sorted, this does not go in the 'genuine' box. ;) Edit: i forgot to express my respect. It _is_ a jewel nonetheless :) |
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Submitted by Motion on 26 April 2007
A wonderful experiece from start to finish. I must say that the ending is quite special for me. Vanja's gfx are just so awe inspiring - so much love in those pixels. The design of the demo is fantastic and so polished. The music is perfect for this release, so wonderfully mastered. The only criticism I have is the change disk part - I think the Art Deco font looks so out of place, otherwise it's is a nice part.
As for Oswald's comment - 7 years? I must have been in a mental coma! My, time sure does fly by at an insane rate. Capture it and savour the moment... |
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Submitted by Oswald on 25 April 2007
| SEVEN? feels like it was 2 :) |
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Submitted by Alchemist on 25 April 2007
| Seven years from release and it still looks sweet. Good work! Love it :) |
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Submitted by Richard on 20 September 2006
| That is a high quality demo production. I'd love to see a Deus Ex Machina 2 in the near future. What do you guys at Crest think? :D |
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Submitted by Optimus on 23 January 2006
| Thumbs up for gfx, sound and some of the effects. I was normally having expectations for more coderpr0n normally (cause I used to be a Graham-fx sucker :) but still it left me with preety positive feelings. |
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Submitted by ouspensky on 28 October 2005
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Submitted by Krill on 28 July 2005
| Graham: better pray he hasn't got the patent on it and goes sueing us all for infringing patent laws. :D |
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Submitted by The Dark Judge on 26 July 2005
| I once stretched my sprite, and wound up in hospital :( |
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Submitted by Krill on 26 July 2005
| Graham: I think we all re-invented certain effects by accident one or the other time :D |
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Submitted by Graham on 26 July 2005
| @Ronski: But you do notice that there is a bit more than stretching to it? Also, how could you invent sprite stretching when people like Horizon etc have done it before, hehe. |
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Submitted by Ronski on 29 March 2005
| The coke can routine looks like the sprite strech routine I invented and allowed Wanderer to use in his demo back in 1989. |
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Submitted by Tch on 7 December 2004
Simply amazing.
I wish i was still a magazine editor! |
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Submitted by -nd-! on 30 September 2004
This shit id no f*kin oldschool shit!
So shut the fuck up! |
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Submitted by Clarence on 22 June 2004
Don't get me wrong I like this demo, but I have to add a fact about the interference part. The scrolltext claims it's a never seen non-cheaty routine to display interference circles the way it originally should look like. Actually Grabowsky of Graffity already made the same routine in the demo JustinTime (1992)! The only little difference compared to Deus Ex Machina is Graffity's version wasn't X expanded.
Check:
Justintime |
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Submitted by Steppe on 1 June 2004
| My alltime favourite demo. Jeff's soundtrack is surely one of the best and coherent singlespeed works he ever did. |
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