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2007-08-17 21:20
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714
Which assemblers do you/did you use for coding?

I thought this might be interesting.

I'll start:
I started out with Hesmon, and later switched to Handics VICMON.
Never did anything major in this. Just learnt how stuff was working.

Later I bought a copy Oasis Machine Lightning (which was bought up by Ocean and turned into Laser Genious)
I used Machine Lightning for all demos I did in the 80's. Cost a shitload of money.
It's line oriented (like basic) which sucks a bit, but has very good macro facilities.

I had a quick stint with Macrofire V1.0 but thought it was cryptic.

I started using dasm as soon as I got an Amiga.
Kept on using dasm when I switched to a linux system.

I have recently started using Kick Assembler 2.12 in combination with dasm and make (under linux).
 
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2023-10-26 10:55
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 634
I recently added Python inline and include code and data generation to ACME: https://github.com/martinpiper/ACME/blob/master/TestPython.a#L35
2023-10-26 20:28
Youth

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 40
Last time I made something (Staying Alive), I used c64jasm, a cross-assembler made in Javascript. I do *not* recommend this; what I like about it is that it is pretty bare bones and is extensible using javascript, but it is not being actively maintained and has quirks.

I spent as much time developing plugins, tweaking my dev environment and making supporting tooling as I did writing assembler code, but I enjoyed that as well because it allowed me to procrastinate from writing assembler and still tell myself I was working on the project :)

I like that my project is all one javascript project, with only NodeJS as a dependency. Would I use it again? Probably. Would I recommend it? No, mostly because it is not being maintained so the quirks won't go away.

The code is at https://github.com/micheldebree/stayingalive
2023-10-26 20:41
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
> The code is at https://github.com/micheldebree/stayingalive

no it's not, 404 =)
2023-10-26 21:00
Youth

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 40
Quote: > The code is at https://github.com/micheldebree/stayingalive

no it's not, 404 =)


Sorry apparently it was set to private. Should be visible now.
2023-10-27 11:37
oziphantom

Registered: Oct 2014
Posts: 478
Native
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DoubleAss

Cross
X816
64tass
2023-10-27 11:40
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
Quote: Native
6510+
DoubleAss

Cross
X816
64tass


I didn't think persons existed who had (a) coded natively on the C64, but who (b) did not use Turbo Assembler for at least some of that coding.
2023-10-27 11:49
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714
Quoting Frantic
I didn't think persons existed who had (a) coded natively on the C64, but who (b) did not use Turbo Assembler for at least some of that coding.

I never used Turbo Assembler natively. I used Machine Lightning, and later Laser Genius (which is the same thing).

It was very expensive.

EDIT: apparently I wrote that in this very thread when I started it in 2007. :)
2023-10-27 12:05
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
Quote: Quoting Frantic
I didn't think persons existed who had (a) coded natively on the C64, but who (b) did not use Turbo Assembler for at least some of that coding.

I never used Turbo Assembler natively. I used Machine Lightning, and later Laser Genius (which is the same thing).

It was very expensive.

EDIT: apparently I wrote that in this very thread when I started it in 2007. :)


The older and more senile we will get, the more the discussions will run in circles.
2023-10-27 12:09
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 193
I made a music screen for myself a couple of weeks ago, and so I wanted to code for real for the first time in decades.

After some research, I decided to use KickAssembler in Visual Studio Code, with an extension installed for syntax highlighting and starting in VICE with F6.

It works really well, except that VICE instances started with F6 are not closed unless I remember to do so myself. Before long I have a dozen VICE instances running all at once.
2023-10-27 14:33
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714
Quoting Frantic
The older and more senile we will get, the more the discussions will run in circles.

Yeah, I'll remind you of that when you in 16 years repeat the same statement. :)
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