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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
Hires
Some time ago I started dabbling in standard Hires mode and i find it quite enjoyable. Also people seem to like the stuff i put up on CSDB in hires mode.
This makes me wonder why not more graphicians try to use it. Imo it is pretty easy to get a hang of and quite enjoyable.
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Dane
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
I was under the impression C64 Graphics was all about combining artistry with craftmanship? Not only should it look good / interesting / stylish / provocative - but it should also be a technical challenge? A demonstration of your skills to impress others?
If it's not then I'm sorry Roland, a lot of work for no good there! |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5027 |
I think "C64 Graphics >is< all about combining artistry with craftmanship", however this is such a subjective topic that its pointless to argue on this. |
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Helm
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Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 25 |
Is there really such a huge technical challenge in copying something? I agree there is some. But if there was, wouldn't you say the first 10 years of scene history would have exhausted any challenge left in translating a high-res photo/boris boob picture into c64 limitations?
What's even more pertinent to ask: now that Timanthes does the straight conversion, the tech side of things better and faster than most sceners, and with a bit of touch-up after, better than ALL of them, is there any point left in that venue of approach?
I agree trying to be the best and impressing your peers is deeply fundamental in scene artwork. To lose sight of that and just do 'modern arty' pieces that only you yourself realize the significance of would simply not do if that became a widespread practise in scene art. I don't think either the technical side, or the conceptual side of pixel art (or 'pixel graphics' if you will, I don't see the difference.) on the c64 have been exhausted.
The tech can get a liiitle bit better, especially AA technique, which I find even hardcore awesome artists around here sometimes neglect. Mermaid basically highscored dithering pretty early on. There's not much more to it, the palette is fixed, it can do specific tricks. In contrast, the conceptual side of things can be taken an extremely long way yet. |
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Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512 |
Hmm,the reason why I don´t bother wasting time on doing pencil-portraits anymore.
Get a PC and it will make it in 1 minute instead of four days..
"Timanthes replaces the C64-pixeler"
Sure,I use sources to make my pictures.
I am a watcher,not an art-expert or `artist´.
Just being glad that Timanthes doesn´t support (M)UFLI..yet.. ;)
Please take into consideration that most of the people pixelling on the C64 nowadays,don´t have a 20-years experience,myself included.
Conceptually,agreed.
Hope you like my next picture.
It´s BOOBISH!! ;P |
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Helm
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Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 25 |
boobs make me happy |
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Deev
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206 |
Quote: I think "C64 Graphics >is< all about combining artistry with craftmanship", however this is such a subjective topic that its pointless to argue on this.
I agree with the statement totally.
If you put a great designer in front of a C64 and tell them to create something, they would require the technical skills to make it look good in a low resolution and in 16 colours or the end result will still be poor.
If you put someone who is great technically infront of a C64 and yet they're not using their imagination, you will probably get a girl and a dragon.
The second of these examples has occured regularly on the C64, so a greater balance between artistry and craftmanship creates a much more exciting scene in my opinion. |
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Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512 |
Quote: boobs make me happy
Hehe,they always smile! 8)
Ps,there is more to life.. ;) |
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Jetboy
Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 227 |
" the conceptual side of things can be taken an extremely long way yet."
Why would you need c64 for that? Other media give you more opportunities to develop conceptualy. |
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Bizzmo
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Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 82 |
So in a nutshell, weuld everyone agree that creativity should be rewarded, both in concept/subject/composition and also in technique? |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 491 |
Quote: " the conceptual side of things can be taken an extremely long way yet."
Why would you need c64 for that? Other media give you more opportunities to develop conceptualy.
Very true. Been asked this before - and i have no valid answer for it.
But for Ptoing and Helm, it's different - they came to the c64 for projecting their vision on the machine (mind you, not the scene ;), because of the restrictions. |
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