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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
a plea from an old schooler
please dont use modified PAL emulating screenshots for pictures on this site.
people may want to use this site to download unmodified c64 art in gif or png format with pure pixel definition.
if they want to see the stuff in highly debatable pal emulation mode people can download the PRG files and view them in that mode on an emulator.
Thanks
Steve |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 675 |
Steve,
are you aware of http://c64pixels.com?
Cheers,
enthusi |
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
yes very much so. but alas that also uses modified data for its large views which i have to say i am not keen on.
i have no problem with it being optional, but i would like always like to view the pure pixel data rather than a modified version that i dont remember it ever looking like, regardless of what the "experts" spout these days.
Steve |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11119 |
isnt the only way to download the unmodified c64 art downloading the prg and viewing it on a c64 ? =P |
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v3to
Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150 |
jep, that was the idea of using the thumbnail-version at c64pixels for a puristic view. which was also for a long time the biggest issue, because they were all shown as jpegs what also has a slight feel of pal emulation. currently those pics will be all changed to 8bit png pics but this will take some time.
speaking of the scaled view there are no plans for doing optional views between simple scaling or pal emulation. main reason is the way how the gallery2 software works. the only way to do a more flexible presentation without changing the official code would be using flash for each entry. |
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
reply to groepaz:
not at all.
as a graphic designer and fairly technically savvy artist i can take any unmodified c64 screenshot and get it back into project one for real koala editing if i want.
but theres bugger all you can do with a "mucked about" psuedo pal emulated gif on a 64.
Steve |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11119 |
sure, but the purpose of a screenshot is to show how it looks like on a c64, not to serve as a repository for graphic designers. |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 675 |
@ste & veto:
Any reasonable browser nowadays can scale individual images, so you can always blow up or save the preview-image which is 1:1 pixel. Especially with the recent option to change them to PNG! |
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
@groepaz
That's exactly what Ste is saying. If you want to see "your" version/recollection of how it looks, go download a prg, set the palette and PAL emulation settings to how "you" think it should look. If someone wants a pixel exact image (ie 16 colours, no blending/scanlines etc) then there should be somewhere to download them like that NOT what someone else has decided to set the emulation to as then there's no going back.
*edit* as you posted again while I was typing..
I don't believe that's right, this is a repository of things as close to accurate as possible and having 16 colours and 320x200 (160x200) with the pixels where they were put is closer than a filtered image. You don't go downloading demos and re-packing them just because it might make them smaller. Ok if there are .koa or .prg files available then it's not so bad, but once again, who makes the decision what is right for a filtered image?
Pete |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11119 |
Quote:I don't believe that's right, this is a repository of things as close to accurate as possible, you don't go downloading demos and re-packing them just because it might make them smaller. Ok if there are .koa or .prg files available then it's not so bad, but once again, who makes the decision what is right for a filtered image?
i am not sure i get what you want to say, but: the screenshot is not the content. the content are the linked files (and only those) |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714 |
Quote:who makes the decision what is right for a filtered image?
Obviously the uploader does (currently).
I agree that the ideal solution is to have pixel exact screenshot with a site side PAL option for viewing.
If we don't have that I think it's a bit hard on people to forbid emulation on screenshots.
Several images use PAL blending quite a lot.
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