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2007-11-22 12:02
Sledge

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 102
SID 6582A

Does anyone know how this chip sounds compared to the other models? It's a 9V version (like the 8580), and it was produced in 1992 mainly.

I have ordered a couple of them, since a guy on E-bay have 100 of them as new old stock. They cost a bit, but hey.. I want one anyways :-)

 
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2007-12-04 21:36
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401
@Sledge: The one I tested is a 6582A - 2392 25, bottom says: Philippines - NM205N08 - 1200T

@Oswald: :)
2007-12-04 21:59
Sledge

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 102
Quote: @Sledge: The one I tested is a 6582A - 2392 25, bottom says: Philippines - NM205N08 - 1200T

@Oswald: :)


Then we have what appears to be the same revision from the same plant :)
2007-12-06 21:16
AüMTRöN

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 42
SIDs come from plants!? Then sid music really IS organic!

/me disappears into the tumbleweed...
2008-01-31 10:08
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
This question is probably a bit redundant or so, since I guess people would say that this thread already gives the answer, but I just want to make really sure.

The 6582 should be in 9v machines, right?
2008-01-31 10:16
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Right, for machines that previously hosted an 8580.
2008-02-09 19:30
Necronomfive
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6582 sounds EXACTLY THE SAME as the 8580. I did several comparisons, and both chips have EXACTLY the same behaviour (filtercharacteristics, waveforms etc.). I know that the "65xx" marking has a certain psychological effect on people, but believe me:

6582 = 8580
6582 = 8580
6582 = 8580

It's NO "super 8580 which can play digis better". It's NO 6581 RUNNING ON 9V. It can not cure aids and cancer either. ;)

Scrap the markings off a 8580, write "6582" on it with tip-ex, and you have the same effect. This chip has become a much bigger myth than it deserves. And I know it's hard to accept this, since we all want to be excited about this "ultra rare" sid revision. But once again:

6582 = 8580

2008-02-09 19:40
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Booohoooo...!!!! :-(
You just destroyed everything I believed in for the last 10+ years! ;-)
2008-02-09 19:46
Necronomfive
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Quote: Booohoooo...!!!! :-(
You just destroyed everything I believed in for the last 10+ years! ;-)


That was the plan. ;) Because all too often, people pop up with the most "interesting" claims about the 6582, spreading false hearsay, further contributing to the "myth" of the 6582. The 6582 is only a very rare package variant of the 8580. Everyone saying it's different from a 8580 is lying. It's no more different from a 8580 than 2 random 8580's compared to each other.
2008-02-09 20:35
null
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Quote: That was the plan. ;) Because all too often, people pop up with the most "interesting" claims about the 6582, spreading false hearsay, further contributing to the "myth" of the 6582. The 6582 is only a very rare package variant of the 8580. Everyone saying it's different from a 8580 is lying. It's no more different from a 8580 than 2 random 8580's compared to each other.

it's a bit like a rev a Vic-II chip (gold contacts, ceramic chip): cool to have, but not more useful than other revisions ;_)

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2008-02-10 10:57
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Isn't the 6582 a VERY EARLY 8580?
At least you can say you have some sort of prototype-stuff-shit-early-this-or-that?

Not that I care... just helping those out whose dreams have just been shattered ;-)
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