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2005-05-28 20:26
tatqoo^tqa
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Goat tracker sample files.

Hi.

First let me apologize for posting a question that probably has been answered on this forum.

I would like to try Goat Tracker but i need more example tunes.

Can somebody point me to some resources ?

You should know, that i am totally c-64 newbie. I am an Atari 8-bit musician , you can find my tunes (mostly covers) in Rater Music Tracker package.

So, any nice guys to help with sample tracks and maybe even some other c-64 music resources ? (e.g. theory).

Thanks in advance.

tatqoo
 
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2005-05-30 12:07
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 453
...just remembered. Open Cubic Player also gives you some insight into what notes are played (approximately - could be a halftone off at times) and if ring modulation or synchronization is used.
2005-05-30 12:38
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
Quote: ...just remembered. Open Cubic Player also gives you some insight into what notes are played (approximately - could be a halftone off at times) and if ring modulation or synchronization is used.

Handy. This will save some time figuring out how they did this and that.

If I remember correctly, the early sidplay also had this possibility, sadly they removed it, coz I love staring at changing parameters....

But your sounds are unique, so I wonder if u did not create them without peeking.. :)

Another nice thing to do is to try create natural sounds with sid. Unfortunately most of the time a sound will use 2 oscilators or more, so there's not much room for a composition.
2005-05-30 13:34
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
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> Another nice thing to do is to try create natural sounds
> with sid. Unfortunately most of the time a sound will use
> 2 oscilators or more

Give me more channels and I'll do "Robot Rock" by Daft Punk on SID. Word. (Jammer will help me.) :D

...and yes fortunately I do my sounds without peeking now, but could have never started without the help of OCP. I didn't know a single thing about digitally-programmed analogue sound synthesis five years ago :)
2005-05-30 17:30
Bamu®
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I used for the song Bullets_in_the_Air_Remix.sid
(release in Hvsc update 42) as lead this instrument:

ADSR: 009C
Pulse With: 90
Pulse Speed: 50
Limit Min/Max 40/50

Wavetable:

41 00
40 00
07 00
08 00
04 00
04 00
FF 02

I also tried to do with GT a Cover of Celestielle.sid by VIP,
and it sounds like his original one.
I think he used these settings for lead-instrument:

ADSR: 047A (better 047B)
Pulse With: 80
Pulse Speed: 10
Limit Min/Max 10/f0

Wavetable:

41 00
03 00
20 00
03 00
10 0C
03 00
FF 02

2005-05-30 18:29
Raf

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 343
great , seems that this topic will turn into GT's stuff/ideas repository :)

maybe someone know how to get bass like Benny Benassi made in "Satisfaction" ? I think's it rather raw pulse with high-pass filter nearly all the time + modulation and/or syncro....

IMO it's possible that he used 'something' with SID to do that bass, what do you think?
2005-05-30 18:57
Hein

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Posts: 933
Raf, goody.. that testbit piece makes a nice echo sound. Never too old to learn something new.
2005-05-31 19:32
Turtle
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Quote: Raf, goody.. that testbit piece makes a nice echo sound. Never too old to learn something new.

After I listened to your sample tunes I would have assumed you discovered that echo-thing earlier on your way to these skilled sounds you have created in there.
2005-05-31 21:05
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
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erm.. nope.. The echos that I used before were done by setting volume manually. This is alot easier, but unfortunately there's no vibration possible this way..

2005-06-01 06:40
Turtle
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Hein, can you tell how you would have implemented echoes in GT by modifying the volume manually? It's always interresting which way several people do go to achieve almost equal effects.

BTW: I'll try to put some of my GT-songs online tonight. At least those listed on CSDb.
2005-06-01 08:17
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
You can use the 6 command to change the adSR (thats what I meant when writing volume):

c-3 1 638

1 = instrument
6 = set adSR command
3 = new Sustain
8 = new Release

a filter can also be helpful for a nice reverb, making the sound deeper (and an extra ringmodulation gives a metallic reverb).

Or use hardrestart off, like I used in Squirting Squid, which should give the 2nd echo instrument an initial volume of the first key instrument, with a slow attack for 2nd instrument, the echo should be smooth. (Best echos are ofcourse 2 tracked echos)
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