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2006-07-25 09:02
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
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Hires

Some time ago I started dabbling in standard Hires mode and i find it quite enjoyable. Also people seem to like the stuff i put up on CSDB in hires mode.

This makes me wonder why not more graphicians try to use it. Imo it is pretty easy to get a hang of and quite enjoyable.

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2006-08-02 16:01
Helm
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Quote: Gustav Klimt is 'boxed' by Art Nouveau/Art Deco. Deco stands for decorative thus eyecandy. Some people I know consider this kitch. (Not me though, I think it's very skilled with a bit of artistic value)

Decorative doesn't mean eye-candy. It means decorative. This can go either way though, because there's Art Deco, and there's Interior Decoration. The artistic intention weilds the signifier. If you look at art by mister Klimt you will see that the repetitive patterns he uses, of red and gold, have an extremely strong aesthetic effect. They (amongst other things, I am no art critic) flatten planes and diffuse the volume of what is otherwise the most multifaceted object in his works: the female form. This juxtaposition between flat patterned clothing and extremely rendered flesh is imperative in the appreciation of Klimt's work. Is this

http://cgfa.sunsite.dk/klimt/klimt35.jpg

or this

http://www.el-harmani.se/Gustav%20Klimt.JPG

concept close to what eye-candy could mean for most people?

Eye-candy is crowd-pleasing art, fan service. Things that you immediately understand, and enjoy. Like drawings of nude girls in suggestive poses, barbarians with huge swords, cyborgs or dragons spitting fire. All these things are fine. The artists that make these pictures, some of them have influenced me and I love them. Some of them are from the demoscene. Most of them copy their art from non-digital artists, but that's a whoooole different discussion. I wish these artists would flex their rendering methods and their years of experience pushing pixels, in drawing something that is infused with more meaning than gloss. You know, as a break between the cybog boobs and the dragons. Just a few times. But I can't make anyone do anything.
2006-08-02 16:13
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
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Quote: Imho what Helm and Ptoing mean: it's about seeing to beauty of the restictions and cultivating them. Resulting in aesthetics that seem authentic for the machine.

But that's probably too academic for most of us.

Kitsch? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsch
(makes my 'Obstacles' kitsch aswell! :)


Bingo about the first part. That is what we would call Computer Aesthetic. An own form of aesthetic that can only come due to the limitations of (mostly) low end computers.
2006-08-02 18:34
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
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But that would make every c64 gfx fall into the category of Computer Aesthetic. Because the cultivation starts whenever it's digitized (handmade or scanned).
2006-08-02 18:54
Helm
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Quote: But that would make every c64 gfx fall into the category of Computer Aesthetic. Because the cultivation starts whenever it's digitized (handmade or scanned).

This is as much correct as believing all hand-made art shares the same aesthetic properties because it's hand-made. Boris and Klimt, sitting on a tree...


Please consider the concept a bit more deeply.
2006-08-02 19:15
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
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Actually I do believe that yes. It's just a matter of perception. A monkey doing a messy doodle is just as aesthetic as an intellectual describing the truth of the world in one beautifull poetic sentence.
2006-08-02 19:19
Helm
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Well that is an interesting opinion.
2006-08-02 19:23
Ben
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Quote: Actually I do believe that yes. It's just a matter of perception. A monkey doing a messy doodle is just as aesthetic as an intellectual describing the truth of the world in one beautifull poetic sentence.

Considering the eternity, it is about as pointless, but I doubt that that is what this discussion is about :)
2006-08-02 19:27
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
lotsa pointless, the empty spaces between the pixels.
2006-08-02 19:29
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
Hein, you seem bitter.
2006-08-02 19:46
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493
In the end we all have our very personal reasons to pixel on this machine. Hard to judge, as it remains a relative and subjective matter.
But i think it's an advantage for all to share visions and ideas, and discuss them.
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