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2010-07-17 16:03
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
a plea from an old schooler

please dont use modified PAL emulating screenshots for pictures on this site.

people may want to use this site to download unmodified c64 art in gif or png format with pure pixel definition.

if they want to see the stuff in highly debatable pal emulation mode people can download the PRG files and view them in that mode on an emulator.

Thanks
Steve
 
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2010-07-19 22:48
JCB
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Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241
I can think of plenty of ways around that.

would you like me to write you some code that checks the palette against known ones? or you could borrow the Lemon code that does it? I could probably do you one that can pick the 16 colours out of any palette as long as they're not insanely wrong, I've got some quite advanced colour matching algorithms. Or failing all of that how about some code to allow someone to go manually pick the palette entry corresponding to the colour on screen.

How about a quick check using one of the above after upload and if no matching palette is found the upload is denied?

Any of that only has to be done once and alleviates all the problems but still allows for own settings.

Instead of enforcing things make it easy to conform. Suggest apps that won't dick with the palette order, supply palettes to people who have no clue, but generally in those cases it'll be people who are just uploaders not artists. Ste knows what he's doing for a start, he just sent me a new load of pics with the palette entries all correct.


All just suggestions not demands ;)

*Edit*
Besides all of that, the only images needing re-anything should be ones that need PAL emulation re-applied and from what I can make out anyone using that uses Pepto anyway.
2010-07-19 23:24
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1630
This must be the most sucky CSDb thread ever. UUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh.....

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Fall out the window and never come back.
2010-07-19 23:30
JCB
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Quote: This must be the most sucky CSDb thread ever. UUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh.....

C S Db makes me wanna smoke crack.
Fall out the window and never come back.


Don't worry, you're not the only one ;) I'd much rather this thread stopped when it should have done after about 10 posts. Now I'm starting to recall why after registering years ago I didn't post again till last week.
2010-07-20 06:30
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5029
I would make a gallery like this: rip all pictures into standardized binary formats like koala, then you display them as you want.

"That just sounds like a lack of respect for what the artist produced?"

Using your own picture setup on your TV is a disrespect towards filmmakers? Your own equalizer setup on music...?
2010-07-20 07:31
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
Jesus this is all very simple really.

a) Please don't use adulterated images (which it has been admitted several posts back was a misjusdgement on my part)

b) please don't try to impress upon me a display palette which i never created my work in. and let me display my work in the manner and spirit it WAS created in. and let ME be the judge of that being as how i actually did it 25 years ago and may indeed have some recollection of what it looked like.

thank you.

Steve
2010-07-20 08:05
TPM

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 109
The image is just a preview.. if the palette just sucks, you have the possibility to update the preview image. I see numerous fucked up previews; i don't care.. the preview usually makes me curious to watch it on the real thing or emu with your preferred palette :)
2010-07-20 08:14
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5029
Quote: Jesus this is all very simple really.

a) Please don't use adulterated images (which it has been admitted several posts back was a misjusdgement on my part)

b) please don't try to impress upon me a display palette which i never created my work in. and let me display my work in the manner and spirit it WAS created in. and let ME be the judge of that being as how i actually did it 25 years ago and may indeed have some recollection of what it looked like.

thank you.

Steve


b) A crystal clear display will never look like a blurry/noisy CRT carrying shitloads of artefacts. So please dont state it looks like as you saw it.
2010-07-20 08:37
JCB
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Quote: b) A crystal clear display will never look like a blurry/noisy CRT carrying shitloads of artefacts. So please dont state it looks like as you saw it.

Closer than with all the wrong (to him) colours no matter if they're artefacts or not.
2010-07-20 08:43
JCB
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Quote: I would make a gallery like this: rip all pictures into standardized binary formats like koala, then you display them as you want.

"That just sounds like a lack of respect for what the artist produced?"

Using your own picture setup on your TV is a disrespect towards filmmakers? Your own equalizer setup on music...?


Do you have the means to get closer to the original than you do? With an image, apart from your monitor setup maybe being wrong, yes you do, you view it as the artist has coloured it. You can at least buy prints of "art". Movies? well some people spend fortunes on home theater kit because that's how the movie was designed, to look as the director intended at the cinema... Ever hear of director's cut dvds? I wonder why people buy those? As for music, no I don't touch any settings, I listen to it presuming the artists care enough to be involved in the mastering process and the CD (or previously vinyl LP) I buy sounds as they intended if listened to "cleanly".

2010-07-20 08:53
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5029
okay, but from now on, only view my demos with the pepto palette, will you ? As you say I have the right to force this on you, because I am the ARTIST. Dont disrespect how I saw it when I created it. From now on I have the control on how you watch my stuff.
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