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2006-07-25 09:02
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
Hires

Some time ago I started dabbling in standard Hires mode and i find it quite enjoyable. Also people seem to like the stuff i put up on CSDB in hires mode.

This makes me wonder why not more graphicians try to use it. Imo it is pretty easy to get a hang of and quite enjoyable.

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2006-08-02 13:08
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
Quote: as i said above, restriction can be freeing :)

I disagree. Restriction fits personality, maybe it feels freeing. Letting go of restriction can feel strange for some, because the personality wants perfection.
2006-08-02 13:12
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
It has nothing to do with perfection imo, just with challenge. I like to think when i pixel. That is why i hardly do anything else than c64 stuff in my freetime pixelwise. When i want unrestricted i just use photoshop.
2006-08-02 13:13
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 487
Quote: 90%? I think you've missed out lately. These days hardly any serious (and grown-up) gfx-dude draws Borisses. Also not in PC-scene or Amiga scene.

Yes there are - and i blame you.
Throw all 'gfxians' on one pile, and pick out those who're NOT into fantasy art kitsch. I'm not talking about the currently active people, but over the years.
90% was an understatement even.
2006-08-02 13:19
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
Quote: Yes there are - and i blame you.
Throw all 'gfxians' on one pile, and pick out those who're NOT into fantasy art kitsch. I'm not talking about the currently active people, but over the years.
90% was an understatement even.


Blame me? How so? It was just a product of time, just check out the game-boxes from that time, lotsa Boris sort of stuff.

Besides, what's fantasy art kitch? What defines this?
2006-08-02 13:51
Bizzmo
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Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 82
Somewhere to keep the "fantasy art fridge?"

I think all the fantasy art stuff was a product of the time and also the age/interests of the people pixelling...
2006-08-02 13:55
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
Something just came to my mind. It's funny how the demoscene, which is based on new ideas and innovation and "creating the impossible" was/is quite conservative and not very outside the box mostly when it comes to graphics.
2006-08-02 14:02
Helm
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Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 25
I think that is -if it's true, it's an interesting thought- because the scene is based around demoparties and releases which are in constant competition, where therefore you try to dazzle the crowd with not so much SKILL IN PIXELLING, but drawing photorealistic or close-to, dragons, boobs and assorted. eye-candy. Some people said my picture eve looked like it had artifacts of corruption, and I think that's absolutely great! Wait 'till you see the new hires pic I'm doing, it'll probably make eyes bleed. But if a picture that looked corrupted came up on the screen guess how many votes I'd get? The demoscene voters don't seem ready to be challenged by the art in compos, but the artists should not bow to the demand of 'easy' (regardless of how skilled) pictures! They should train their audience to understand aesthetic, not only boobs.

Right now, if let's say a picture by Gustav Klimt was shown on the screen at a demoparty he'd probably rank very low, and a picture by Boris, or even worse, a PHOTOGRAPH of boobs would win :P
2006-08-02 14:16
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 487
Quote: I think that is -if it's true, it's an interesting thought- because the scene is based around demoparties and releases which are in constant competition, where therefore you try to dazzle the crowd with not so much SKILL IN PIXELLING, but drawing photorealistic or close-to, dragons, boobs and assorted. eye-candy. Some people said my picture eve looked like it had artifacts of corruption, and I think that's absolutely great! Wait 'till you see the new hires pic I'm doing, it'll probably make eyes bleed. But if a picture that looked corrupted came up on the screen guess how many votes I'd get? The demoscene voters don't seem ready to be challenged by the art in compos, but the artists should not bow to the demand of 'easy' (regardless of how skilled) pictures! They should train their audience to understand aesthetic, not only boobs.

Right now, if let's say a picture by Gustav Klimt was shown on the screen at a demoparty he'd probably rank very low, and a picture by Boris, or even worse, a PHOTOGRAPH of boobs would win :P


Check this: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/toplist.php?type=release&subtype=%28..

Thank god for Electric. Happy browsing.
2006-08-02 14:45
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
Also check the lower entries.
2006-08-02 14:49
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 217
As i see it there are two ablilities mixed we are talking about. One is to draw excelent pictures, the other is to be able to work with atributes restrictions. Both are rare. Both are something very valuable. People who has both of them are even more rare, and i'm even more impressed when i see pictures that both look nice, and were technicaly challenging to be drawn.
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