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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
An update on ‘Pixel art in the C64 demoscene’
Dear fellow sceners,
In response to the comments we received, we’ve made some changes to the document.
Our goal was always to find common ground to maintain the fun and integrity of our hobby.
What this is not:
- It’s not written to limit anyone (only to encourage openness)
- It’s not aimed at specific individuals (it’s a scene wide practice)
Read the document here
We’d really love to hear your thoughts on this update.
Please post them in this thread, be kind and keep it constructive and on-topic please. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
PS: if you can think for a minute - you can also download those cracks from csdb (and i believe also SMB64). |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Quote: Quote:Where on CSDB can I download it?
Strawman. Also it'd be no problem - as said, original links still work fine.
Quote:but nobody goes around recracking, stealing other's work etc. We are past that I think. We even have some period when downloads aren't available for cracks. I don't want to kill too many kittens, but obviously something has changed during the past 20 years.
None if this is related to copyright law. And there ARE other easily accessable places (even websites) where you can download every single new crack, no problem. csdb is NOT the scene.
Well, you are right, I choose carefully ;-)
CSDB is not the scene, but it strives to be single source of truth about scene. I just state that here for the sake of endlessly exchanging arguments with you, though. So let's cut it. Of course it's not about copyright, I was just lazy and sincere, I didn't want to manipulate the text to solely concentrate on my point, I didn't need that, but I should have known (you being you) that you will not leave it without response. I should have known better ;-) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Quote: PS: if you can think for a minute - you can also download those cracks from csdb (and i believe also SMB64).
You are probably right, I didn't chooose carefully, but I had you ... at least for minute. ;-) |
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acrouzet
Registered: May 2020
Posts: 80 |
Just goes to show that ChatGPT/AI still isn't great at automating information and creativity (in this case, expressing your thoughts through information as a contribution to a creative work/argument). |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
I'd still like to know how all this applies to gfx in demos. That's what spawned the wall of outcry afterall. You guys don't expect that "we" mention every single original artist, in case we convert whatever from the internet, do you? |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Quote: Just goes to show that ChatGPT/AI still isn't great at automating information and creativity (in this case, expressing your thoughts through information as a contribution to a creative work/argument).
Absolutely. I try from time to time to past my text there and ask to correct grammar and stylistic mistaked, but most of the time I end up with my original crap. It's just too flamboyant in general setting, and I don't feel like tweaking it. |
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acrouzet
Registered: May 2020
Posts: 80 |
Quote: I'd still like to know how all this applies to gfx in demos. That's what spawned the wall of outcry afterall. You guys don't expect that "we" mention every single original artist, in case we convert whatever from the internet, do you?
I believe it was an artist using AI without mentioning it? I think we're just asking that people who want to use AI be transparent about it at least. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 119 |
Quote:… mention every single original artist, in case we convert whatever from the internet…
Nah, just attribute it to AI ;-) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
Quote:I think we're just asking that people who want to use AI be transparent about it at least.
In demos? |
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acrouzet
Registered: May 2020
Posts: 80 |
Quote: Quote:I think we're just asking that people who want to use AI be transparent about it at least.
In demos?
Anywhere really. |
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