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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 487 |
Graphics on C64 demoscene: Guide of Ethics – a Proposal
Dear fellow sceners,
This is an attempt to get more understanding among, and for, C64 demoscene pixel artists. It’s not written to limit anyone, but a prayer for more transparency.
Read the document here: ->Graphics on C64 demoscene: Guide of Ethics – a Proposal<-
We tried to give define and value different processes. Which is a result of discussion, where we saw mutual grounds and felt the need to write these down.
We will update the document periodically, when enough input has been gathered and sorted out.
We’d really love to hear your thoughts on the subjects in the document.
Please post them in this thread.
(Personally I will not always fully comply to these guidelines myself, but I will continue to be transparant about it. However, I do agree with the values communicated in this document.) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3035 |
Quote: There is one simple fact we need to face:
We are all getting obsolete quickly.
No amount of petitions will change that. So have fun while you still can.
Although technology and art forms may change over time, certain pieces of art will continue to be valued and remembered. This could be due to their unique expression, emotional impact, historical significance, or a combination of these factors. Even as artists and the tools they use become obsolete, their art can live on and maintain its relevance and value to future generations. |
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Mixer
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 422 |
Perhaps there should be a general discussion thread about this new hammer we've got to play with. |
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arch0N
Registered: May 2006
Posts: 12 |
Technology is simply a tool; it needs someone to operate it. AI won’t replace you, but someone who knows how to use it might.
I respect the desire to remain true to pixel art, but just as photography didn’t eliminate the artist, AI is here to stay and will continue to improve. If you avoid using AI, photo references, stock images, or anything that comes to mind, you might be making your work more difficult. I’m not suggesting that simply entering a prompt into Midjourney is enough - actually, the more detailed you are with your prompt, the more the results might stray from what you envisioned. It’s just a tool, after all.
Rob Hubbard’s statement “Mutate or Die” from his speech at 10:25 comes to mind:
https://youtu.be/rSDz7x5UVIc?si=W-YE_tJHkJzpTKtd. |
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PAL
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 269 |
arch0N: cool post |
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acrouzet
Registered: May 2020
Posts: 80 |
In the end, do what's most fulfilling to YOU, and surely there will be people who appreciate it. |
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arch0N
Registered: May 2006
Posts: 12 |
Quote: arch0N: cool post
Thanks Man and great post of yours #10, fully agree there. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 117 |
Quote: Technology is simply a tool
While this claim makes sense when put together with the rest of the sentence, as it was made to show that technology is dependent on human operator, I just want to point out that on its own, this claim is dead wrong. In context of your post = right, on its own = dead wrong.
What you’re saying is very defetistic, you’re basically saying: if you are a charcoal drawing artist and they invent a charcoal drawing machine, you should better quickly learn how to oil and service this machine, as this will be your job from now on. Mutate or die. It’s very defetistic and perhaps very true.
But why are we philosophizing about “AI” here, let’s get back to the conversation about the paper. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933 |
Quoting 4gentEQuote: Technology is simply a tool
While this claim makes sense when put together with the rest of the sentence, as it was made to show that technology is dependent on human operator, I just want to point out that on its own, this claim is dead wrong. In context of your post = right, on its own = dead wrong.
What you’re saying is very defetistic, you’re basically saying: if you are a charcoal drawing artist and they invent a charcoal drawing machine, you should better quickly learn how to oil and service this machine, as this will be your job from now on. Mutate or die. It’s very defetistic and perhaps very true.
But why are we philosophizing about “AI” here, let’s get back to the conversation about the paper.
Or, if you're an oil painter, you can use an iPad with Procreate (as a tool) and mimic oil paint.
But adaptation seems a good strategy indeed if you want to be ahead of the curve. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 117 |
Quote: Or, if you're an oil painter, you can use an iPad with Procreate (as a tool) and mimic oil paint.
Or you can use an iPad with or without Procreate as a literal tool for applying paint to the canvas. ;) |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933 |
Quoting 4gentEQuote: Or, if you're an oil painter, you can use an iPad with Procreate (as a tool) and mimic oil paint.
Or you can use an iPad with or without Procreate as a literal tool for applying paint to the canvas. ;)
Even better! |
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